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Post by willc453 on Apr 27, 2017 21:26:44 GMT -6
Anyone read this book by Robert A. Heinlein? Was crusin' thru YouTube when I saw someone's downloaded the movie (I have it on dvd) and it got me to thinking this could make an interesting story. Maybe even have a couple of different people writing about what happened around them from their point of view. The book & movie have the aliens dying without killing the host by some sort of disease that affects the human brain by a small percentage, but by a majority percentage on the aliens which are basically all brain. Attachments:
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Post by papaof2 on Apr 28, 2017 12:01:56 GMT -6
I've read so much by Heinlein (and Asimov and Bradbury and ...) that I'd have to read a page or two to remember whether I've read this one. The alien invaders being killed off by something that doesn't affect (or minimally affects) humans traces back at least to H. G. Wells "War of the Worlds" - something in the environment being universally fatal to the invaders is likely to most reliable way to kill off a invasion by a scientifically and/or militarily advanced invaders.
Seeing a situation happen from different viewpoints is good, but not many can carry that off well. Consider the birth of a child. How does Dad see it? Mom sees (and feels) it differently as she's more directly involved ;-) What's the in-utero to ex-utero experience like? That last one would go from warm, wet, dark, semi-quiet and comfortable to pressure, noise, bright, dry, turned upsidedown, poked, probed and fed. What terms would a newborn have for that experience? People have the same senses of sight, touch, hearing, etc. but those things are filtered through their personalities. Is a child born with a personality or does it develop from outside influences? Or is it both?
I just gave someone a good start on a storyline. We will have the first chapter by Monday?
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Post by 9idrr on Apr 28, 2017 15:08:47 GMT -6
I've read so much by Heinlein (and Asimov and Bradbury and ...) that I'd have to read a page or two to remember whether I've read this one. The alien invaders being killed off by something that doesn't affect (or minimally affects) humans traces back at least to H. G. Wells "War of the Worlds" - something in the environment being universally fatal to the invaders is likely to most reliable way to kill off a invasion by a scientifically and/or militarily advanced invaders. Seeing a situation happen from different viewpoints is good, but not many can carry that off well. Consider the birth of a child. How does Dad see it? Mom sees (and feels) it differently as she's more directly involved ;-) What's the in-utero to ex-utero experience like? That last one would go from warm, wet, dark, semi-quiet and comfortable to pressure, noise, bright, dry, turned upsidedown, poked, probed and fed. What terms would a newborn have for that experience? People have the same senses of sight, touch, hearing, etc. but those things are filtered through their personalities. Is a child born with a personality or does it develop from outside influences? Or is it both? I just gave someone a good start on a storyline. We will have the first chapter by Monday? By Monday? Sure, we can give ya 'til then. But no later than Tuesday, okay? ;^)
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Post by willc453 on Apr 28, 2017 16:09:44 GMT -6
Been at least 20 years since I've read the book and it (like his other stories), take place in the future. I do remember we had a small colony on either Saturn or Venus which almost wiped out that colony until it was discovered what was killing people and how to cure them. So we had the original bug and the cure. The bug was watered down (in the story)so it wouldn't kill people, but would the aliens. As to the aliens surviving, always wondered why there wasn't a sequel to it as I seriously doubt the aliens with human intelligence would be so slow/stupid not to realize not only were they being attacked, but at least understanding their deaths didn't come until after they had been in contact with each other. And remember, while there was only ONE alien, each would be able to pass their human host intelligence to an alien which was controlling a dog, cow, etc. In the movie, there's a scene where a drone is doing an infrared scan on people in the street of some city. A mother is calling out for her son, then goes out into the street. She is quickly surrounded by controlled people and just that quick, she's one of them. The movie has the alien like a small sting/manta ray....see the photo I posted. The area between the shoulder blades is preferred spot, though in the book it could be any where, with (in the movie) the "stinger" penetrating at the conjunction of the spine/base of the brain. In the book, thing go REAL BAD, with govt. finally telling everyone what had/was happening. Ended up a lot of people started running around in shorts and bras to show everyone else they weren't controlled. One fat lady didn't want to go this route, but when it was discovered she was controlled, it did not go well for her AND she became a poster child on why you should show much skin as possible. Of course, this happened during the summer. As to writing a story, I'd go for a singles view. I mean, what does DH or DW do if they discover not only is DH/DW controlled, but failed in attempting to control them? Whack 'em with a shovel & bury 'em in the backyard? Or how about one or more of your kids? In the movie, the Army sent in the 101st to kill the aliens in a SMALL town, but ran into hundreds of children who were controlled. The 101st was turned into them. Presidents secret service team got turned and guess who was next? The alien used water to move its space ship and as a breeding ground for more alien. Remember, in the book & movie, there was originally only ONE alien which had to be controlling another alien so it could be brought to earth. Once it had absorbed enough food via the water, it split in half and become 2. More water/food, 2 became 4 and so on. And what happened to that ship & alien? One of the movie posters headline was TRUST NO ONE. Don't look at me for a chapter/story on this for awhile. Working on 3 chapters right now about Ben and The Affected. As to Chicago and Mrs. O'Leary's cow burning down the town----that was NOT his fault! And have about another dozen I can write. Also consider how people far/quick people can travel today, even without Heinlein's flying cars. Attachments:
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Post by ydderf on Apr 29, 2017 15:22:11 GMT -6
No political rants here please - and the post would make no sense elsewhere.
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Post by kaijafon on Apr 29, 2017 18:47:24 GMT -6
hmmm... who was that said the government was already corrupt... Jefferson?
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