Post by papaof2 on Sept 12, 2023 15:17:09 GMT -6
but they just can't get things together.
Talked with a salesman about getting a new roof last week. He did a lot of looking, measuring and taking pictures and then gave us a quote. I already knew that I wouldn't be going with the reputedly "best" local roofing company again because we've just had too many problems that likely could be traced back to improper installation. So the guy we talked with is from the same company that replaced our windows and gutters over the past ten years.
Two of the "team" members were out a day later to go over some details and talk installation expectations and financing. We suggested Monday, 11 Sept and they said Yes. (Monday was good for us - no doctor's appointments or the like - and had better weather: near zero chance of rain.) Everything was scheduled: dumpster and materials to be dropped off Friday by 5PM for an early start Monday the 11th.
Move to Friday, 5PM. No dumpster. 5:45PM no dumpster. Call their 800 number and ask "Are you aware that neither dumpster nor materials have been delivered?"
"Can you hold while I check with the dumpster company?"
(I'll assume no one thought to make that check with a day-long roof removal/installation promised.)
"No dumpsters are available until Tuesday morning. I'll reschedule it for Tuesday, the 12th."
"OK." from me because I want the work done ASAP.
Move to Tuesday, 7AM. I hear a big truck and the dumpster delivery is on time. The dumpster is maybe 20 feet long and with the roofing materials having been delivered Monday evening, there's just enough room for the dumpster to be on the driveway and maybe 5 feet in from the road. Watched an artist back the truck into the drive at an angle and then pull forward to the other side of the road (two lane residential road isn't very wide) then change the angle so the dumpster is almost parallel with the edge of the drive. Getting the dumpster down on the ground was a fight with gravity as the drive angles down to the road and the dumpster wants to roll and push the truck back down the drive. Fifteen minutes after he got here, the dumpster is in place and the driver is doing multiple short 3-point turns, with the corners of the truck coming within inches of the dumpster to get the 20-something-feet-long truck out of the drive and headed out of the area without driving over the curb on the other side of the road. I think that might be called a "Mack ballet" ;-)
Fifteen minutes after that truck leaves, the roofing crew is backing a crewcab truck up the other side of the drive. They quickly get MOST of the shrubbery protected by tarps and start stripping off two layers of shingles and tarpaper equivalent. Then they start repairing the decking and then put down the breathable (think Goretex) replacement for tarpaper so the roof will quickly be waterproof.
1:30PM Crew on the roof with the Pop-pop-pop-pop-pop-pop of the pneumatic roofing nailers. (That will be 6 nails per shingle times umpty-leven-dozen shingles.)
2:30PM Hearing thunder, seeing dark clouds moving in, heard that there was rain 6 miles from us. Had a few sprinkles but nothing that would stop their work. The job supervisor got someone started on cleaning up the torn-off shingles so we can get out the front door.
3PM Very dark clouds and the sprinkles turn into sheets of rain moving down the road. Guess the crew is in the crewcab pickup for rain protection. The three foot pile of shingles at the base of the steps has decreased some ;-)
3:40PM Crew back on the roof with the Pop-pop-pop-pop-pop-pop of the pneumatic roofing nailers. Still some dark clouds and some thunder in the distance. I'll guess the 40 minute delay will move their finish out more than an hour unless we get more rain. The rain will make cleanup harder with some things slick and hard to handle and other things sticking together and hard to pick up and put into a wheelbarrow for the trip to the dumpster. And working on a wet surface will have them moving slower than usual.
3:50PM Still getting a little rain and there's still a bit of thunder. How much will that slow them down? Wonder if they have some serious work lights so they can finish after dark?
5PM The crew chief says they'll finish today, just much later than planned.
I tried to get them to do the work yesterday :-(
I've been on my feet far too much today so time for me to get horizontal. Don't think I'll be napping with the Pop-pop-pop-pop-pop-pop going on for the next several hours...
However, the crew chief saw my paper copy of "An Accidental Family" and he's interested in being prepared so I gave him a business card with the book's cover and the Amazon URL on it. He's asked his kids (ages 12 and 14) "How would you get home from here if you had to walk?" and gotten the universal "I dunno". I told him to also look at the "similar items" Amazon adds to every page you look at.
Talked with a salesman about getting a new roof last week. He did a lot of looking, measuring and taking pictures and then gave us a quote. I already knew that I wouldn't be going with the reputedly "best" local roofing company again because we've just had too many problems that likely could be traced back to improper installation. So the guy we talked with is from the same company that replaced our windows and gutters over the past ten years.
Two of the "team" members were out a day later to go over some details and talk installation expectations and financing. We suggested Monday, 11 Sept and they said Yes. (Monday was good for us - no doctor's appointments or the like - and had better weather: near zero chance of rain.) Everything was scheduled: dumpster and materials to be dropped off Friday by 5PM for an early start Monday the 11th.
Move to Friday, 5PM. No dumpster. 5:45PM no dumpster. Call their 800 number and ask "Are you aware that neither dumpster nor materials have been delivered?"
"Can you hold while I check with the dumpster company?"
(I'll assume no one thought to make that check with a day-long roof removal/installation promised.)
"No dumpsters are available until Tuesday morning. I'll reschedule it for Tuesday, the 12th."
"OK." from me because I want the work done ASAP.
Move to Tuesday, 7AM. I hear a big truck and the dumpster delivery is on time. The dumpster is maybe 20 feet long and with the roofing materials having been delivered Monday evening, there's just enough room for the dumpster to be on the driveway and maybe 5 feet in from the road. Watched an artist back the truck into the drive at an angle and then pull forward to the other side of the road (two lane residential road isn't very wide) then change the angle so the dumpster is almost parallel with the edge of the drive. Getting the dumpster down on the ground was a fight with gravity as the drive angles down to the road and the dumpster wants to roll and push the truck back down the drive. Fifteen minutes after he got here, the dumpster is in place and the driver is doing multiple short 3-point turns, with the corners of the truck coming within inches of the dumpster to get the 20-something-feet-long truck out of the drive and headed out of the area without driving over the curb on the other side of the road. I think that might be called a "Mack ballet" ;-)
Fifteen minutes after that truck leaves, the roofing crew is backing a crewcab truck up the other side of the drive. They quickly get MOST of the shrubbery protected by tarps and start stripping off two layers of shingles and tarpaper equivalent. Then they start repairing the decking and then put down the breathable (think Goretex) replacement for tarpaper so the roof will quickly be waterproof.
1:30PM Crew on the roof with the Pop-pop-pop-pop-pop-pop of the pneumatic roofing nailers. (That will be 6 nails per shingle times umpty-leven-dozen shingles.)
2:30PM Hearing thunder, seeing dark clouds moving in, heard that there was rain 6 miles from us. Had a few sprinkles but nothing that would stop their work. The job supervisor got someone started on cleaning up the torn-off shingles so we can get out the front door.
3PM Very dark clouds and the sprinkles turn into sheets of rain moving down the road. Guess the crew is in the crewcab pickup for rain protection. The three foot pile of shingles at the base of the steps has decreased some ;-)
3:40PM Crew back on the roof with the Pop-pop-pop-pop-pop-pop of the pneumatic roofing nailers. Still some dark clouds and some thunder in the distance. I'll guess the 40 minute delay will move their finish out more than an hour unless we get more rain. The rain will make cleanup harder with some things slick and hard to handle and other things sticking together and hard to pick up and put into a wheelbarrow for the trip to the dumpster. And working on a wet surface will have them moving slower than usual.
3:50PM Still getting a little rain and there's still a bit of thunder. How much will that slow them down? Wonder if they have some serious work lights so they can finish after dark?
5PM The crew chief says they'll finish today, just much later than planned.
I tried to get them to do the work yesterday :-(
I've been on my feet far too much today so time for me to get horizontal. Don't think I'll be napping with the Pop-pop-pop-pop-pop-pop going on for the next several hours...
However, the crew chief saw my paper copy of "An Accidental Family" and he's interested in being prepared so I gave him a business card with the book's cover and the Amazon URL on it. He's asked his kids (ages 12 and 14) "How would you get home from here if you had to walk?" and gotten the universal "I dunno". I told him to also look at the "similar items" Amazon adds to every page you look at.
