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Nov 8, 2022 10:00:03 GMT -6
Post by gipsy on Nov 8, 2022 10:00:03 GMT -6
I had to wait in line for a couple minutes today. I hope that is a good sign.
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Nov 9, 2022 10:57:46 GMT -6
Post by gipsy on Nov 9, 2022 10:57:46 GMT -6
What a crock. Penn. elected a dead man and a person who releases murders from prison, and can not string a sentence together.
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Nov 9, 2022 19:46:55 GMT -6
Post by papaof2 on Nov 9, 2022 19:46:55 GMT -6
"can not string a sentence together" A relative of Joe Burden?
A dead man elected might mean someone gets appointed to "fill out the term".
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Nov 10, 2022 10:16:43 GMT -6
Post by gipsy on Nov 10, 2022 10:16:43 GMT -6
It is simply amazing that 40 ( not 1 or 2) voting machines in Az run out of paper at the same time. Have to tighten down my tinfoil hat on that one.
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Nov 10, 2022 18:53:49 GMT -6
Post by papaof2 on Nov 10, 2022 18:53:49 GMT -6
Standard size paper cassette/roll, good for XXX voters. The voters are sent to the machines as the machines are available, so roughly the same number of people going to each machine. Moving YY voters per hour to each machine means a little simple arithmetic would tell them that the machines would run out of paper after XXX voters or Z hours, AA minutes. Unfortunately, none of the people monitoring/managing the polls can do math above 10 with their shoes on, they can't do "big numbers" like XXX with paper and pencil and they couldn't have their phones so no one could possibly have known when those machines would run out of paper :-(
They just need an old-fashioned accountant who can do pencil and paper math - or equip the machines with a paper counter that can alert the poll workers when there are only 50 pages left: what a ground-shaking idea...
Maybe the voting machine tech short-sheeted the machines?
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Nov 10, 2022 19:40:28 GMT -6
Post by gipsy on Nov 10, 2022 19:40:28 GMT -6
Perhaps but 40 machines?
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Nov 10, 2022 21:07:47 GMT -6
Post by papaof2 on Nov 10, 2022 21:07:47 GMT -6
Let's say each machine has paper for 200 voters. A voting location has 10 machines to service 5,000 voters. The polls will be open 12 hours, so 5000/12 = about 417 voters/hour. 10 machines * 200 pages = 2,000 voters. 2000/417 = 4 hours, 47 minutes to paper out. They wouldn't run out at the same exact second but with approximately equal use they would all run out within maybe 10 to 15 minutes of each other. That's 10 machines.
Another polling place has 30 machines to service 15,000 voters. You can do the math but the numbers work out the same. That brings the total up to 40 machines.
The machines could have been at different locations and some could have been set up for special voting districts or special elections or whatever and some of those machines could have seen half or twice the number of voters as others. The number of pages and the number of voters will still work out the same. Some machines will run out of paper before others and not all the machines may have had the same amount of paper loaded - maybe the paper jamed several times when the tech tested whether the paper was loaded correctly or maybe the roll tore oddly and he had to throw away a dozen pages.
I'm inclined to put this down to ignorance of the likely voter turnout, incompetence about having supplies and techs readily available or a paper loading/counting error by the minimum-wage techs (or possibly the torally ignorant poll workers) who set up the machines.
Sounds like a good basis - or side issue - for a story, if I weren't still on Rx pain meds almost daily. I did have one stretch of 2 1/2 days where I didn't need those but that's the rare exception. I usually need one at the end of the day so I can sleep but that beats 3 or 4 a day ;-) I mat also be doing more than I should but the surgeon's "Thou Shalt/Thou Shalt Not" list was rather short and not nearly as inclusive as other I found online. I'm trying to do the "Walk a little every 45 minutes to an hour" but I can lose track of time when reading a good story and not move for a couple of hours :-(
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Nov 10, 2022 21:18:31 GMT -6
Post by gipsy on Nov 10, 2022 21:18:31 GMT -6
I think you had one word right incompetence, if Fl. can get all their votes counted in 24 hours there is no other reason but incompetence (or something more sinister) for this kind of delay.
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Post by papaof2 on Nov 10, 2022 22:25:31 GMT -6
Part of the vote count timing is the way different states handle absentee ballots, among other things.
Georgia starts verifying and counting those ballots as they are received. Early voting (at selected polling places) ends two or three days before the election so those ballots can also be counted before the election day crush.
Arizona doesn't even open and check the absentee ballots until the polls close on Election Day. If they have a million paper ballots to handle, they will be MANY hours/days getting them verified and counted.
I'll guess that the other states all fall somewhere between those two.
It's all up to the individual state's Election Commission (or whatever they call it). Some of the rules/procedures have been moved to the 20th century and some have not left the 18th century. Florida seems to be approaching the 21st century ;-)
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