Enticed to the polymer side!

[buckshot]

Never thought it would happen to me.

Shot steel for years. Wheel gun or semi auto. Mostly stainless, but some blue in there too.

Then I got a Ruger KP-90. Kind of a big gun for it's 7 (then) or 8 (now) round count, but still in .45 ACP. But it has an alloy frame.

Then, for the lightness and smallness, a chunk of combat Tupperware snuck into the house. A Kel-tec P-11. Just as a potent backup gun, not as main carry.

Now, the ultimate change, a GLOCK! A brand new G-17. Still unfired since purchase. Waiting for a couple of mods.

HOW did THAT happen.

Just to make cry and screech worse, I traded an early Century L1A1 with a complete extra parts kit to get the cash for the Glock!

I feel like I have ignored the force and taken to the Dark Side!

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[rvm45]

I often Rant against Plastic Pistols.....

But it isn't so much the plastic that I object to.

I'm satisfied that a Plastic Pistol could be designed that I would at least be neutral to own and carry.

From what I can see of the Russian "Rhino" .357 Magnum Topbreak Revolver--I'd really love the Opportunity to check one out, shoot it--and if it performed at all well, to own one.

The big clunky Walther .22, is fine for a .22.

I considered buying a S&W Sigma once(for $160)--someone has Said that the Sigma is like a Vespa--lots of Fun to ride, but a trifle embarrassing when your friends see you on one. ( Would loath to Carry the Sigma--because it is clunky.....)

No my Friends and my Brothers--What I Hate about the Glock is this whole Modernistic, Agnostic, Utilitarian, Pragmatic approach to Sidearms in General.

Each one is pretty much like every other one--except for a clever bunch of modular replaceable parts, to adjust a few parameters--

And hey, you're ready to go--Just like Military Basic Training Haircuts--one size misfits all.....

I agree with the Samurai who said, "The Sword is the Soul of the Samurai."

Before someone leaps to argue the point--What is a Soul? Can you define it? Well then, how can you possibly say that a Pistol or Revolver doesn't have a Soul?

What in Hell are you talking About?

But the Samurai didn't say "Swords have a Soul";"They say, "Sword is The Soul."

For the man who wants to be a Modern Day Warrior--or "Samurai".....And since in the Modern World, he will almost have to be a Self-Taught, Self-Styled Samurai.....He can clear out a few of the Grossest of the "Clinkers" in the Olde Tyme Samurai's Theory and Practice.

For the Modern Day Samurai--The thing that Defines him as a Man, or as a Practitioner of "Bushido" is his Handgun.

The Olde Tyme Samurai went kinda overboard here. There are cases of Samurai who sold their families into Slavery, to raise money for a suitable Katana....

Hopelessly cursing and marring the Blade, even before they'd donned it the first time.

A modern day Warrior Should sit and meditate, while looking at his Side Arm:

This; He should tell himself, is what makes me Warrior.
This; Sets me above the Hoarde of Non-Warriors.
Without This; I am Nothing.

If I were Starving, I would not part with This--not for any amount of Food.

Better to Starve than to Lose Warriorhood.

If I were Drowning, and This were pulling me Down, I would not discard It.

If my Wife were to say, "You must give That up, or me."

I would say, "Good-Bye."

Put a Gun to my Head, and say, "Drop It!"

"I imagine that I will, once you've blown my Brains out--But not Until."

Such a powerful Talisman should allow the Maximum Latitude for Personalization.....

Not be an item of Mass issue.

.....RVM45

[buckshot]

Took me about a week just to digest all that.

Some of I can agree with, some of it is just too far out there for me.

What got me to change is that when you are part of a teaching team, you do your best to be armed and equipped in a manner matching the rest of the trainers in your team.

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[leper]

Why would you mod it before you try it out? Get really good with it first. Once that happens, any modifications you do you will be able to see their effectiveness. I had around 15k through the pipe before I modded my XDs trigger. At that point it was a night and day difference in my practice sessions. I was good enough with it stock that it became the bottleneck, but it had made me better by forcing my skill level to improve to be more effective in competition. I'll take skill over accessories most of the time.


The issue with the Sigma is the trigger. When my son was trying to figure out his first pistol we tested the Sigma. It felt like the trigger pull was three feet long.

[buckshot]

I said I resisted the Glock for 25 years, not that I had not shot those belonging to others.

The mods consisted of a tactical (I hate that word, in this case it just means short extension) mag release and an extended slide stop.

Both of these I noted as needing a long time ago and later got to use friends firearms that had the mods on them all ready and knew that I basically needed them from the start.

The final mod will be a 3.5 lb. connector, the 5.5 that it comes from the factory with is a little much.

That, unless I end up with a standard rifled barrel to shoot lead bullets, will be ALL of the mods made.

The problem with the Sigma series was it was a JUNK GUN! People knock the Hi Points, but the Sigma was just a S&W made clone of the Glock using Hi Point construction methods.

As far as the mods go, been shooting since 1968, pretty much know what I need, want and want to deal with by this point. Muscle memory PERMANENTLY grooved for the S&W K-frames (can lay off for two years and be right back in the groove within 2 cylinder fulls) and the 1911 (can pick up the one I have had for YEARS after a few years of no shooting it and be back in the groove within a magazine full). I think 40+ years of shooting kind of lets me know what I will need to make something work for me, especially standard mods.

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[manny]

I admired Glocks for years, but didn't like them, felt blocky and foreign in my hand, also had a tendency to aim high on an initial draw due to the grip angle. What got me past that was a combo of two things, getting a 21SF where the changes to the grip made it point more naturally, and two, getting into "progressive" lenses, ie: reading glasses on top of my regular blind-as-a-bat near sightedness perscription. I started having a heck of a time focusing on the front sight of many handgun front sights and found that the longer slides of the Glock 34 & especially the 17L made it much easier.

These are now my main defensive handguns and have become very comfortable in the hand, wonderfull weapons. They also came stock with the extended slide release & mag release, though I find the mag release a bit too long and am going to switch to the Larry Vickers one that is in between the standard 17 and the factory extended. They also have the 3.5# connector giving a very satisfactory trigger. I am going to try a NY1 trigger spring as recomended by Massad Ayoob for a bit of lawyer proofing and because it is said to be virtually unbreakable. It's said the combo gives a trigger with close to standard weight pull but with a better reset, more akin to a DA revolver trigger. We'll try it and see.

I am now a confimed Glock fan and they are the only centerfire semi autos I own and I see no reason to change.

[buckshot]

Manny,

The Vickers Tactical Mag release is exactly the one I have. Just long enough without being too long.

The extended slide lock is another brand, I forget which one, but works well.

Could not get a 3.5 lb connector, Glock won't even sell them to Glock Certified Armorers. Had to get a third party there too. Can't remember the name (I didn't buy it or get a package for it) but it is the one that has the NP3 coating on it, NOT a Ghost, Inc. unit.

I was warned about one of the fancier Ghost, Inc. units in that they get rid of trigger overtravel, but have to be fitted to each gun, and to get it apart to do the fitting (since you can't pull the trigger far enough to get it to go to the rearward position) you also have to modify the back plate on the rear of the slide and a couple of other parts.

Got some of the KCI Korean G17 mags and they seem to work well for the price. Advertised at $7.99 each, turns out to be $10.82 each delivered.

Only other mod would be a standard rifled barrel, to use lead bullets. Most of my pistol reloading is done with lead bullets and I have seen first hand what can happen when you use lead bullets in a Polygonal rifled barrel, though most of them have been H&K barrels rather than Glock barrels.

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[dogsoldier0513]

BTDT...and hated it every time. It's 'real guns' for me!

[gipsy]

Well all is not lost. Sig Sauer now has a plastice offering