How does this grab you - first there is this UN invasion ..

[wtr100]

Rough thumbnail UN Invasion – blue berets the whole nine yards.



Patriots and UN fight to a standstill, someplace out of the way off the beaten path say northern Wisconsin. Neither side can do much to the other.



THEN IT HAPPENS!!!!



I don’t know solar flare, world wide EMP, something that takes out all power everywhere true SHTF –



Seems like a guy could go lots of places from here. Or is this retarded?

[papaof2]

UN invasion:

coming by air, military or commercial flights?

coming by sea, military or commercial ships?

Once transportation is decided, you can have reasonable expectations of where the troops will located.

For troops coming on commercial flights, they are easy to stop at the airports: a Cessna with a Kamakazi pilot could take out an A380 as it lands, making multiple runways unusable for some period of time. A drone carrying dynamite or C4 could do something similar by damaging one landing gear.

[willc453]

How about not perceived at first as a military invasion, but a military exercise? Troops coming in via commercial and military aircraft, with all their normal equipment of guns, ammo, etc. They bypass customs. I'm thinking L.A., San Francisco and NYC to start. That's how the Russians got into Afghanistan. Ships carrying equipment disembarking at L.A., San Francisco and New York ports. All with the publicly being announced that this was the first of what was hoped to be the first of many exercises in the U.S., with it sponsoring other countries to practice their skills at Ft. Irwin, California. Of course, this will take time in getting everyone and their equipment together, so please be patient. Once everything's been unloaded, ports and airports are seized, quickly followed by Google, Yahoo, etc. web services also seized/controlled. Or simply destroy where all these mainframes used to handle the traffic is at, along with phone services. Control the media/communications, control the population. THEN to stir the pot, like papaof2 said, add a solar flare, so now NOBODY knows what's going on for a few months at least.

[papaof2]

Remember that there are a few HAM operators that have solar power and they could provide nationwide communications, depending on the sunspot cycle (currently in a hole, but it will climb out - it's an 11 year cycle).

[willc453]

Good ham point, but how bad/light will the solar flare be and how many radios will become toast? No doubt some operators will have spares stashed/protected. And what about emp bombs being set off? I know there's been a lot of research on emp missiles/bombs in at least the last five years by the U.S., Russia, China and Israel. And let's not forget cyber terrorism such as shutting power across the U.S. Started reading Lights Out by Ted Koppel a month or so ago. Got it free as a pdf file on some website.

[papaof2]

A solar flare/CME or HEMP is not required to shut down large portions of the power grid. The Northeast Blackout basically was one defective switch/relay that caused a cascade failure. Something similar could happen during heavy load (summer or winter) and the Southwest US is probably prime for that type failure. The question would be whether the other areas were sufficiently aware and took proper response to the problem by disconnecting the still-working portion of the grid from the Southwest or just kept trying to provide power as ConEd did in NY. If the generators are rated at 2000MW, they will smoke if you attempt to load them to 4000MW. Don't have the actual numbers, but ConEd did try to power a lot of the Northeast when things started failing. Had they let things disconnect normally, NYC proper probably could have had power back in a few hours instead of everyone being in the dark for a long time while repairs/replacements were in progress. I'm sure there's a book or two worth of finger-pointing about that failure and the "Why didn't you..." questions.

Obviously, very few in NYC proper would have had any type of backup power, although at this point a couple of 300 watt solar panels on a sunny-part-of-the-day balcony off an apartment and 200AH of sealed batteries inside the apartment could power a few lights and an electric blanket - keeping your body warm if not the apartment. However, probably less than half the apartments get any sun at all :-(

The last time we had a significant power outage (in December, with 7" to 12" of snow across the county) I never heard another generator running - just mine, for about two hours to run the central heat to warm the basement and the pipes there before an overnight low in the 20's. What would happen in a multi-day power failure? If I had any generator running, someone would likely "demand" that I provide power for their house (even though they have no way to connect into the house's power). I think I'd be arming up before I got a gen out of the shed and maybe having the better half holding a rifle out a window that overlooks the shed. To the uninitiated, even a .177 pellet rifle with a scope is a BIG GUN ;-) Putting a single round into the dirt near them would also let me comment "And I have a silencer for it." Most of them would never know the difference and perception is 90% of being in control. Any retelling of the tale makes the weapon bigger, the damage greater and, at some point in the telling, it becomes an automatic weapon and there's more than one shooter. That's an excellent deterrent, which would remain long beyond the power failure. Should a County Mounty ask about the weapons, I'd show him the break-barrel pellet gun and let him draw his own conclusions about the firearms knowledge of my neighbors...

[castleman]

Might it be worth laying the disasters? Maybe that long awaited 2nd American Civil War kicks off, and the UN sends in Peacekeepers who instead just take control for the most part. Then you get "it" happening and causing the blue heads and patriots to scramble and try to figure out what happened, blaming each other in the process?

[wtr100]

Nov 27, 2019 11:50:17 GMT -6 castleman said:

Might it be worth laying the disasters? Maybe that long awaited 2nd American Civil War kicks off, and the UN sends in Peacekeepers who instead just take control for the most part. Then you get "it" happening and causing the blue heads and patriots to scramble and try to figure out what happened, blaming each other in the process?

That's somewhere along the lines of what I was thinking - I like the figure it out angle 

[willc453]

Nov 27, 2019 11:50:17 GMT -6 castleman said:

Might it be worth laying the disasters? Maybe that long awaited 2nd American Civil War kicks off, and the UN sends in Peacekeepers who instead just take control for the most part. Then you get "it" happening and causing the blue heads and patriots to scramble and try to figure out what happened, blaming each other in the process?

Thought it over and it won't fly because while a lot of nations hate the U.S., all it takes is a no from any member of the security council. However....what if some militia's decided to IMITATE being U.N. troops, along with "foreign weapons" such as AK-47's and blue painted helmets with U.N. painted on them? The "U.N. troops" start doing hit and run tactics at the state government level, killing governors, maybe IRS people. Shoot, blow things up, kill people, then scoot with them putting their "U.N." equipment out of sight. Then with their other weapons (American of course), start telling everyone how the U.N.'s trying to take over the U.S., with its New World Order. Also, spread the word via Youtube videos, Twitter, etc. It's going to take awhile before the government can react and disclaim all of these. Remember those 3 that ran a scam on how a homeless man helped that woman who was out of gas, giving her his last $5? Within a week of it being posted online, they had what, $50,000 to $100,00 to help the homeless man?

[papaof2]

I can see the "Stop the UN" site on gofundme.com. One picture of a "UN" soldier holding an apparently dead, naked child and another using a bayonet on a "helpless" mother of small children.

Sure you don't want to make a graphic novel out of this???

[willc453]

Nov 29, 2019 12:00:03 GMT -6 papaof2 said:

I can see the "Stop the UN" site on gofundme.com. One picture of a "UN" soldier holding an apparently dead, naked child and another using a bayonet on a "helpless" mother of small children.

Sure you don't want to make a graphic novel out of this???

Your thought reminds me of the posters that England, the U.S., Russia, and China printed during WW 2, except it was Nazi's & Japanese. Got a bunch of 'em downloaded years ago via Google that I was going to use with some military dioramas. As to a graphic novel, that sounds neat and another reason for me to learn CAD and how to draw people for 3D printing. As for Dwayne's story, on chapter 6 and close to 10 pages. Doing a bit of hit and miss on the others.

[steve]

So I've been thinking about this for a few days now. Here are my thoughts:

* Don't use the United Nations as the villain; Use the United Nations as the proxy to the villain. The villain is just using the United Nations to further their goals. Why?

** Militarily, the UN is far too weak to take on ANY capable military. The UN Peacekeeping Forces (UNPF) wouldn't stand a chance against even a weakened U.S. military force, nevermind one at full strength.

** The only time UNPF would even be welcomed onto US soil is if there was a severe crisis.

* Everyone loves a conspiracy and survivalists love "New World Order" / UN / Globalist conspiracies so give them one and give it to them in spades:

Brief into of possible story. I'm spitballing here. If I step on any toes, it's not intentional. All names are placeholders, I'm writing this on the fly:

The Blosser family Empire runs deep in Switzerland. Some say they are worth billions of Euros; Others say they are worth tens of billions; Only they know that they are worth north of 400 billion. And they keep their books clean. They are Old Money back when Old Money meant gold bars stashed in vaults deep underground.

Lately, the Blosser family has been diversifying. They are investing in biotech. Their grown great grandchildren (late 30s, early 40s) have positions in the United Nations. Were those positions bought? Do you even need to ask?

Anna Blosser, age 37, is the most ambitious of all. Piercing blue eyes, flawless skin, nice figure, nicer personality. A polyglot since her teenage years, she has a master's in International Law. Just as comfortable speaking Russian in Moscow as she is speaking Arabic in Tehran as she is speaking American English in New York City. It's no wonder that she's the Deputy Secretary General of the United Nations. There are many who whisper that she's a strong contender to be the next Secretary General... If the UN can keep her for that long, for it is rumored that she has ambitions for political positions in her homeland of Switzerland.

What nobody knows is that the Blosser family is tired of division: Pakistan and India at each other's throats. South Korea & Japan feuding over the smallest of infractions. China bullying it's Asian neighbors. North Korea rattling it's nuclear sabre whenever it pleases. America polarizing between conservatives and liberals. The Middle East a never ending kettle boiling over, with Israel, Syria, Saudi Arabia & Iran all vying for influence. Russia trying to shore up it's sagging global image with shadow wars throughout the world. South America constantly in economic and political turmoil. Turkey & the Philippines turning into realistic dictatorships.

What the world needs is a leader... A strong leader. A global leader. A World Emperor.

And after decades of secret research, decades of preparatory work... Their plan to be the first First Global Rulers are about to come to fruition... And they will rule... Forever.

OK. If you want, I can provide some more outline if you're interested in that intro.

Nov 26, 2019 12:50:52 GMT -6 wtr100 said:

Rough thumbnail UN Invasion – blue berets the whole nine yards.



Patriots and UN fight to a standstill, someplace out of the way off the beaten path say northern Wisconsin. Neither side can do much to the other.



THEN IT HAPPENS!!!!



I don’t know solar flare, world wide EMP, something that takes out all power everywhere true SHTF –



Seems like a guy could go lots of places from here. Or is this retarded?