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Post by bunyip on Mar 28, 2018 3:03:03 GMT -6
What your BOV is, IMO, is going to depend first on your individual circumstances, and then on your local environs (either big picture locale or smaller - eg country, then region).
What you would like to have, is rarely what you can afford. So your BOV is the vehicle you have right now.
In my case its a Korean, front wheel drive, sedan/hatchback. Wife and daughter each have Japanese hatches.
How likely is EMP really (or CME - ie a 'Carrington event').
To me, you list your risks, and prepare accordingly.
Here, an extended power outage is probably more likely than anything. But bushfires and bad storms are something we have endured a couple of times.
So its what you have vs what you'd like, and what is most likely to happen vs all eventualities.
So what best fits your environs, your top risks, and what would you 'like to have'.
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Post by millwright on Mar 31, 2019 13:01:12 GMT -6
On the EMP thing. There is a member on another forum who has participated in EMP testing and such. He thinks the danger to vehicles is way overblown. They tested some newer vehicles and there wasn't that much damage.
In some cases, the whole, "keep a new computer on the shelf or get one from the parts store/dealership, after the fact" plan is weak. On newer vehicles, the dealers just keep generic, unprogrammed boxes on the shelf. Once it is installed they plug it in to their system in Detroit and it is flashed by vehicle serial number.
There are more than one in my truck (Chevy Duramax/Allison), f'rinstance the transmission computer is separate from the ECM. (Engine control Module) Once it is installed and flashed, then there is a "learning routine" you have to perform in order for it to work with the transmission.
I can't give an informed opinion on other brands tho. It would be worth the time spent to research that topic on your vehicle.
If I won the lottery, my first stop would be at the dealership for a new 3/4ton Suburban and a 4WD Duramax truck with the same trim options. Then home to the new shop for a body swap.(I won the lottery, right?) Even at that, it would be a crapshoot on which accessories worked as originally installed. I'm continually astounded at how complex these things really are.
My preferred body style is the Suburban for the most part. You do lose some large cargo capacity, but a trailer overcomes most of that.
I get 18-21 MPG and have about 600-700mi range on 34gal. With a 60gal tank in the back, it goes to 1600+ miles.
As to the OP, it's kinda like asking about a "favorite" gun.
Different tools for different jobs.
How many screwdrivers do you own?
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Post by Ozarks Tom on May 12, 2019 18:48:49 GMT -6
The most expensive book I've ever bought is "One Second After". Not that the book cost all that much, but I made the mistake of letting my wife read it. It was explained to me if I ever wanted another hot meal in this house we'd convert our '88 Bronco to EMP proof. Way above my abilities, so to the shop it went.
We're now the proud owners of an '88 rusted out EMP proof Bronco I'll have to be buried in. Yeah, a casket would be cheaper, but damn, you just can't let that kind of money go to waste.
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Post by biggkidd on May 17, 2019 12:16:17 GMT -6
LOL I ended up going with a 1969 6x6 deuce and a half. It'll run on most any liquid that burns. Cost less than a 25 year old 1 ton 4x4 and less than 4000 miles since its last complete military overhaul. Been handy around the homestead too.
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Post by willc453 on Sept 26, 2019 19:35:19 GMT -6
The most expensive book I've ever bought is "One Second After". Not that the book cost all that much, but I made the mistake of letting my wife read it. It was explained to me if I ever wanted another hot meal in this house we'd convert our '88 Bronco to EMP proof. Way above my abilities, so to the shop it went. We're now the proud owners of an '88 rusted out EMP proof Bronco I'll have to be buried in. Yeah, a casket would be cheaper, but damn, you just can't let that kind of money go to waste. Curious...did you read the other 2 One Second After books? 2nd books isn't bad, 3rd was kind of a let down. As far as emp effects go, at least 5 years ago, the Air Force got Boeing to create such a missile. It got used against a regular target filled with computers, etc. Sorry, it was Raytheon who made the missile and it dates to 2012. Makes you wonder what's happened since. Also read that China, Russia and Israel are working on their own versions. mil-embedded.com/news/raytheon-emp-missile-tested-by-boeing-usaf-research-lab/ www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/162868www.studentnewsdaily.com/daily-news-article/boeing-successfully-tests-missile-that-takes-out-electronic-targets/Youtube: www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo2mNFF6uGwwww.youtube.com/watch?v=B0aY5msm2PIwww.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh1rgy25XhUThing is, the article I read (and can't find) said it also damaged the equipment that was suppose to have been protected against such an attack. |
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Post by papaof2 on Sept 26, 2019 20:11:35 GMT -6
I knew a guy who worked for Lockheed. He would only talk around the periphery of EMP protection. The biggest thing I took away was that a hole the size of a USB port could let the EMP in. So much for having a laptop in a metal case. Considering how guarded he was in what he said, I think it's safe to expand on that to "Wrap it in copper foil - twice - and ground it."
I wonder how much value a microwave oven would have as an EMP "safe". It's designed to keep 1750 watts of RF power at 2.45GHz inside the oven area.
Does any one have charts and graphs of the frequency spectrum of a nuclear explosion and the ERP (Effective Radiated Power) of each frequency at various distances from Ground Zero?
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Post by bunyip on Jan 10, 2020 15:08:05 GMT -6
LOL I ended up going with a 1969 6x6 deuce and a half. It'll run on most any liquid that burns. Cost less than a 25 year old 1 ton 4x4 and less than 4000 miles since its last complete military overhaul. Been handy around the homestead too. Love the idea of a deuce and a half. ....If I was in the CONUS I'd get one. youtu.be/hjH1t0R09tUOur army is currently re-equipping their truck and light 4WD fleet. That means that there are a lot of surplus M-B Unimogs and Isuzu diesel engined LandRovers coming on to the market. Longer term, I like the idea of an old Subaru wagon, or a Toyota Landcruiser (FJ-40 pref) or an older diesel HiLux (do you guys get the HiLux?). |
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Post by 9idrr on Jan 10, 2020 20:25:03 GMT -6
Don't think there're any Toyota diesels available here. Seems as though all trucks sold in USA now have to come with auto-butt-wipe, digital windspeed readerouts and eyebrows over headlights, taillights and turn indicators, all of which must be fully functional at all times or the ECU automatically writes itself a ticket and drives itself to the nearest impound yard.
Hope you folks are gettin' the upper hand on those wildland fires, bunyip.
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Post by bunyip on Jan 10, 2020 21:06:25 GMT -6
.... Hope you folks are gettin' the upper hand on those wildland fires, bunyip. Thanks m8. Today is cool, with a mist of rain (That doesn't help do much for big fires, does make backburning harder though). We are sandwiched between tw fires, a big one to our north, NE and NW, and one that has come up from the south coast of NSW. We were packed and ready to bug out on 2 occasions. Fire was right up to my sister's place, and close to my brother. The south coast fires got pretty worrying for my nephew and his young family. So yeah, something of a prepper story in real life. A lot of the fires were deliberately lit - firebugs, arsonists, or whatever you want to call them. The green environmentalist types have a lot of influence on local councils, and they don't like what we call 'hazard reduction' - controlled burnoffs of undergrowth. That lack of burnoff led to hotter wildfires, and much bigger and more intense fires. But to those same people, the fires are proof of 'climate change'. |
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Post by 9idrr on Jan 10, 2020 21:40:49 GMT -6
I usually follow the JTWC to see what storms are doin' in your half of the world. Nice to see that there's been some moisture down there.
Fires are no fun. We had to evacuate for 10 days durin' the Camp Fire a while back. Fortunately we didn't lose much, other than sleep. Best of luck to you and yours.
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Post by papaof2 on Jan 10, 2020 21:44:05 GMT -6
.... Hope you folks are gettin' the upper hand on those wildland fires, bunyip. Thanks m8. Today is cool, with a mist of rain (That doesn't help do much for big fires, does make backburning harder though). We are sandwiched between tw fires, a big one to our north, NE and NW, and one that has come up from the south coast of NSW. We were packed and ready to bug out on 2 occasions. Fire was right up to my sister's place, and close to my brother. The south coast fires got pretty worrying for my nephew and his young family. So yeah, something of a prepper story in real life. A lot of the fires were deliberately lit - firebugs, arsonists, or whatever you want to call them. The green environmentalist types have a lot of influence on local councils, and they don't like what we call 'hazard reduction' - controlled burnoffs of undergrowth. That lack of burnoff led to hotter wildfires, and much bigger and more intense fires. But to those same people, the fires are proof of 'climate change'. If you're stupid, anything can be twisted to to fit your worldview. Those people needed to have been through some type of "junior forest ranger" camp when they were 9-10 years old to learn how forests renew themselves. If people don't clear the underbrush, Mother Nature will and her tool is fire. Obviously, we have a lot of that stupidity in California as they want everything "left natural" but scream about 'climate change' when Mother Nature steps in. Too bad the warnings go out to all the people living in those areas - some should have the opportunity to answer to "Mother" face-to-face. |
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Post by bunyip on Jul 24, 2021 2:34:53 GMT -6
If you are a singlie. or even a couple that can both ride, IMO, a trail/dual sport/ adventure bike makes a lot of sense as a BOV. Can get around most things that clock full size vehicles, can carry a lot more that a person can on their back, and a lot faster too. There are many options. Yamaha WR250, the old XT250, Hondas CRF300. But adventure riders seem to love this 20 yo design - the Suzuki DRZ400. youtu.be/IUdtBlQ0xu8youtu.be/KBfqiqUbUgoDo they do the job as a BOV - I'll say yes with a BO radius of maybe 250 miles/400km (modded); youtu.be/jtj9jhykgdwyoutu.be/mQwFYLkpPgs |
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Post by bunyip on Jul 24, 2021 3:11:47 GMT -6
Just in case I gave you the false impression that adventure biking in Oz is all desert, this is a 'High Country' trip for a group. (High Country is the mountainous region that straddles the eastern part of the NSW/Victorian border region - where our ski fields mostly are and 'Man From Snowy River' and Snowy Mountain Scheme territory). youtu.be/Kk88eCKd-METhe tall trees are Mountain Ashes - grow to 90m/300ft or so; youtu.be/Nlus1eJ26xoyoutu.be/KxGVAgXx6Ooyoutu.be/OmoEWNjgNLg |
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