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Post by brucearmstrong65 on Feb 12, 2018 16:42:50 GMT -6
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Post by griz375 on May 21, 2018 21:21:55 GMT -6
I used to sell firearms at retail and when I was much younger, the Rem 700 was pretty much a standard of performance, accuracy and reliability at a reasonable price for me, my shooting confreres and a host of customers. When Remington was acquired by Cerberus Capital and folded into Freedom Group you could see the rapid waning of those standards. Sadly most of the other companies Cerberus acquired -- notably Marlin -- seemed to follow suit.
There was a time when you could take any 700, in any calibre, off the rack, go to the range and get acceptable accuracy, out of the box, without a lot of tweaking or after-market upgrading other than optics of your choice.
Personally the only hope I see for the brand is a buyout by true 'gun-guys' who are determined to return to those standards. Being a public company is sort of counter to that as (in my view) most public companies seem to view the buying public as cash flow generators to permit dividend payouts to investors and other shareholders.
Yes, I'm a skeptic.
Yes, I miss the ole pre-Cerberus quality and performance.
Just my opinion -- I've been divorced a couple of times so I admit to being 'wrong' at least a couple of times -- I don't think I am now.
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Post by papaof2 on May 30, 2018 11:10:23 GMT -6
If a brand goes downhill in quality, the higher profits from selling inferior items at quality prices can improve the bottom line for a short while but the backlash is often fatal to a business.
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Post by 9idrr on May 30, 2018 20:12:58 GMT -6
Yeah, without support what good is any firearm? I've got a Remington rifle for which I can't get ammo 'cause nobody's made it since maybe WWII? Remington .22 Auto Loader, with a round that's longer than a .22LR but shorter than .22 Mag. The chamber appears to be tapered, so when tryin' to fire .22LR as a single shot, some of the cases jam in the chamber so they have to be pried out or eject but the shell's split down the side. Neat ol' gun, but no support for parts or ammo.
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Post by papaof2 on May 31, 2018 14:26:18 GMT -6
Lots of reasons to do research on the most widely used calibers before choosing a specific firearm. 22LR is almost everywhere, as is .45 and 9mm. 38 comes in varieties and .380 auto, 95 grain, jacketed might be a bit specific to find everywhere - although my local Walmart had it the last time I checked.
And there's always the prepper's refrain of "Buy it cheap and stack it deep" in relationship to ammo or toothpaste or most anything else ;-)
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Post by brucearmstrong65 on Jun 4, 2018 6:11:18 GMT -6
Yeah, without support what good is any firearm? I've got a Remington rifle for which I can't get ammo 'cause nobody's made it since maybe WWII? Remington .22 Auto Loader, with a round that's longer than a .22LR but shorter than .22 Mag. The chamber appears to be tapered, so when tryin' to fire .22LR as a single shot, some of the cases jam in the chamber so they have to be pried out or eject but the shell's split down the side. Neat ol' gun, but no support for parts or ammo. I found two places online that have Remington Model 16 .22 Autoloading ammo for sale. Brace yourself. Sporting Collectibles (http://www.sportingcollectibles.com/22_ammunition.html) lists it for $115. No idea how many boxes (if any) currently in stock. RTG Ammo (http://www.rtgammo.com/obsolamm.html) lists it for $95 a box. (Current as of 11 May 18.) Both websites look very old-school, not kept up to date, so entirely possible both are out of .22 Autoloading. |
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Post by 9idrr on Jun 4, 2018 20:57:54 GMT -6
Yeah, without support what good is any firearm? I've got a Remington rifle for which I can't get ammo 'cause nobody's made it since maybe WWII? Remington .22 Auto Loader, with a round that's longer than a .22LR but shorter than .22 Mag. The chamber appears to be tapered, so when tryin' to fire .22LR as a single shot, some of the cases jam in the chamber so they have to be pried out or eject but the shell's split down the side. Neat ol' gun, but no support for parts or ammo. I found two places online that have Remington Model 16 .22 Autoloading ammo for sale. Brace yourself. Sporting Collectibles (http://www.sportingcollectibles.com/22_ammunition.html) lists it for $115. No idea how many boxes (if any) currently in stock. RTG Ammo (http://www.rtgammo.com/obsolamm.html) lists it for $95 a box. (Current as of 11 May 18.) Both websites look very old-school, not kept up to date, so entirely possible both are out of .22 Autoloading. Thanks, sir. I figured if there was any left it'd be a bit high. I got the rifle with around 30 rounds about 35 years ago at a yard sale for 15 bucks. Then found that Army-Navy Surplus in Redding had 2 boxes left at $20 each. Damned if I was gonna pay more for 50 rounds of ammo than I did for the gun. Tom Miller, the gunsmith/builder recommended I not shoot anything else in the gun so I've pretty much let it sit. |
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Post by sharpedge1949 on Jul 24, 2018 11:43:24 GMT -6
We've all got our Monarch, or Unicorn, or whatever, that is our heart's ideal... For me, it is the Remington 1911 R1 Tactical Double Stack Threaded pistol. You'll find this descendant of the Para Ordinance version here: www.remington.com/handguns/model-1911-r1/1911-r1-tactical-double-stack-threadedI do hope that someone with honor and integrity can purchase, and produce this, and similar pistols... It would be a tragedy, should such a magnificent weapon never be allowed to serve and protect those who value freedom, or need to protect themselves, and others... For the purpose of defense/offense, in a pistol, this would be tough to beat... What do I carry? Two Sig Sauer P226 TACOPS are just part of my EDC, and I'm sixty-eight years of age... |
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Post by gipsy on Jul 29, 2018 10:23:00 GMT -6
IT was announced that they are out of bankruptcy, and just got a govt contract
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Post by sharpedge1949 on Jul 29, 2018 22:27:48 GMT -6
Outstanding! Thanks for the info, gipsy!
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