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Post by papaof2 on Sept 7, 2020 19:51:21 GMT -6
We lost Patience a while back but his stories continue to educate and entertain. Possibly my favorite author.
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Post by texican on Sept 15, 2020 20:59:37 GMT -6
Good story.
Texican....
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Post by papaof2 on Dec 1, 2020 22:09:33 GMT -6
As I was re-reading this story, I noted comments on the storage time of fuels.
From real-world experience, gasoline in a sealed container and treated with Stabil when placed in that container is good for *more than* 2 years. I have four 5 gallon containers that I rotate through by time for lawn equipment and generator use. After some "help" from someone else, the containers were out of time order (regardless of the date labels) so one container sat in the shed for 2 years before being opened for use and it was then used over a period of several months. That's one point on your graph of "How long can I store gasoline?"
That's not a fluke, as the gasoline I used to blow leaves in October was 22 months old. I think it's safe to say "at least 2 years" for treated gasoline stored in an airtight container (at whatever the year's temperature range has been) and probably somewhat longer. Even better if you had an underground tank and the gas stayed cooler in the summer. Remember, we're in the sunny South and summer temperatures can be in the 90's for days - even warmer in that shed because it's in the sun most of the day.
Sealed drums of diesel from WWII were found to be OK for use when opened 50 years later. Two things to note: this was not the current low sulphur diesel and it was in air-tight steel drums. Would the current production diesel store as well? Only time can tell but obviously the "airtight" has a lot to do with gasoline and diesel surviving a long time.
I have no direct esperience with long term diesel storage but kerosene is a first cousin of diesel and I have used 10-year-old 1-K kerosene in a heater with no problems. Again, it was stored in an airtight container.
If you use kerosene, you probably know the best places to buy in your area but here are some internet prices for 1-K on 1 Dec 2020:
1 gal $8.86 at Walmart (Crown Brand)
1 gal $10.49 at Home Depot (Sunnyside Brand)
1 gal $11.84 at Walmart (Klean-Heat Brand)
2.5 gal $21.36 at Home Depot (Sunnyside)
2.5 gal $25.98 at Lowes (Klean-Heat)
5 gal $34.99 at Tractor Supply (Crown)
5 gal $49.99 at Ace Hardware (Crown)
Looks like Tractor Supply beats all the others and Ace is the place not to buy.
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Post by texican on Dec 1, 2020 23:01:15 GMT -6
The best Gasoline and Diesel Additive is Pri-G and Pri-D. Both extend the life of the fuel. Diesel will last longer than gasoline and with Pri-D will last even longer. priproducts.com/God bless us all. Texican....
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Post by papaof2 on Dec 2, 2020 5:01:47 GMT -6
Stabil is more readily avalable here them Pri-G, which is something I've never seen on local auto parts store shelves.
I ordered some Pri-D (and some 2ml syringes) to treat the kero that's been stored so long. That's an experiment with a long wait time ;-)
We need some input from someone who has treated 5 gallons of gas with Stabil and 5 gallons with Pri-G and tried the gas every 5 years until it wouldn't run ;-)
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Post by texican on Dec 2, 2020 12:43:43 GMT -6
Stabil is more readily avalable here them Pri-G, which is something I've never seen on local auto parts store shelves. I ordered some Pri-D (and some 2ml syringes) to treat the kero that's been stored so long. That's an experiment with a long wait time ;-) We need some input from someone who has treated 5 gallons of gas with Stabil and 5 gallons with Pri-G and tried the gas every 5 years until it wouldn't run ;-) pp2, Would provide a definite resolution, but I don't think we have multiple 5 years to do the testing or even 5 months. I have used both Stabil Products and Pri-Products and the Pri-Products do work better. I treat all of our stored gasoline and diesel with Pri-G and Pri-D. Used up the last of the Pri on the last stored fuel. Pri-Products are more expensive than Stabil, but worth the cost. www.amazon.com/s?k=pri+gas+treatment&crid=1ENM5BR8WYAH6&sprefix=pri++%2Caps%2C218&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-a-p_1_4God bless us, America and President Trump. Texican....
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Post by remembergoliad on May 17, 2022 20:47:33 GMT -6
Things I've learned re fuel, over the years....
1. Diesel will last 20+ years with no special care whatsoever. Dad had an old 4020D that he stopped using in 1999. His rule for 40 years was, fill up when you finish using the tractor, even if it only takes a half a gallon to top it off. That tractor was not started again until Fall 2019. No ether, no gassy rag on air intake, just hot batteries and it barfed up several metric buttloads of black smoke then settled into 'ready to work' idling.
2. Gasoline (with corn squeezin's) from 2020 stored in plastic fuel cans *mostly* airtight runs just like new in small engines as of about a month ago when I mowed the grass last.
3. Those purple quart cans of mixed gas will last for >1yr in the fuel tank of a weedeater.
4. The same cans, partially used, will last from 2019 until last month or so when I put some in an old F.O.R.D. chainsaw I garbage picked. Unknown why that Jonsered 22" was sitting out by the trash barrel on pickup day but I did garbage pick it and it fired right up.
5. As long as gasoline smells even SORTA like gasoline, and is clean, it will fire up in a carbureted engine.
Conclusion: I'm wondering just how much of the additive/preservative market is hype promulgated by the manufacturers of such products.
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