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Post by papaof2 on May 19, 2022 19:55:03 GMT -6
Two days later I'm in PT again and that station is now $4.79 for regular unleaded. Diesel is still $5.49.
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Post by gipsy on May 22, 2022 20:57:27 GMT -6
Went up here to 5.16 for reg still 5.15 for diesel
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Post by papaof2 on May 22, 2022 22:11:23 GMT -6
Nearest local stations were $4.09 for unleaded regular Sunday, $5.19 for diesel.
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Post by iamnobody on May 24, 2022 8:55:17 GMT -6
Wow! Local gas prices came down 1 cent yesterday.
Local regular gas is now $4.69 and diesel is $6.20
Local #2 heating oil fuel is $5.30 gallon........
Do I fill my tank now because it may go up in price later in the year, or chance it coming down in price?
Or will heating oil be rationed later or even not available?
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Post by papaof2 on May 24, 2022 11:51:37 GMT -6
Think I'd be looking for a 55 gallon barrel for heating oil (maybe more than one barrel - You do know how much fuel you used last winter?). Maybe label it "Old oil" or "Waste oil" so no one else helps it walk off? The biggest difference between diesel and #2 fuel oil is that diesel is subject to road tax...
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Post by papaof2 on May 24, 2022 13:35:51 GMT -6
Should all EV charging stations include the "road tax" for the "equivalent miles driven" in an EV? They wear the roads just as much as any gas/diesel vehicle and should pay their portion of the maintenace.
California is predicting a HUGE shortfall in generating capacity in a few years when the EVs have more of the market - at the level of "Do you want to run your home A/C or do you want to charge your EV?" shortfall. Guess they'll have to go back to coal-fired plants, figure a way to harness all the hot air that comes out of Sacramento with wind turbines or legalize a family of five riding on one dirt bike (I understand that the the person-miles per gallon is really good on those vehicles).
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Post by gipsy on May 24, 2022 14:57:47 GMT -6
It dropped a dine around here to 5.10
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Post by gipsy on May 26, 2022 8:53:09 GMT -6
Some places dropped anotheer dime but most stayed the same.
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Post by gipsy on May 26, 2022 10:59:15 GMT -6
Well Costco is 4.75 while others are 5 to 5.10, diesel is still 5.20
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Post by papaof2 on May 31, 2022 16:20:47 GMT -6
Unleaded regular up to $4.19. Diesel still holding at $5.19.
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Post by gipsy on Jun 1, 2022 18:44:04 GMT -6
5.55 for reg now.
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Post by techsar on Jun 1, 2022 19:26:11 GMT -6
This past Friday regular was at 3.99, yesterday it jumped up to 4.12, and was at 4.23 tonight...and that's at the "cheap" station.
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Post by biggkidd on Jun 1, 2022 20:19:20 GMT -6
A practice I started awhile back is to ALWAYS fill up on the way home. With fuel prices pretty much only moving in the UPWARDS direction it's almost always cheaper today that the next time I go out. It may be a little strange to only need 1-3 gallons to fill up but I have to save everyway I can. Generally I only go out about 3 times a month anymore unless I have a project going on that sends me for parts. . .
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Post by gipsy on Jun 2, 2022 15:12:09 GMT -6
Still 5.55 Costco 5.25
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Post by iamnobody on Jun 4, 2022 12:01:05 GMT -6
$4.90 gal today
My brother drives 1 hour each way to work.
It cost him $160 this past week for filling his pickup truck for 4 days of work.
He drives that distance because of higher pay but is now talking about a lower paying job closer to home because of gas prices.
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Post by papaof2 on Jun 4, 2022 13:07:58 GMT -6
$4.90 gal today
My brother drives 1 hour each way to work.
It cost him $160 this past week for filling his pickup truck for 4 days of work. He drives that distance because of higher pay but is now talking about a lower paying job closer to home because of gas prices.
That's where an electric vehicle with solar charging might be the answer.
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Post by iamnobody on Jun 4, 2022 13:18:07 GMT -6
$4.90 gal today
My brother drives 1 hour each way to work.
It cost him $160 this past week for filling his pickup truck for 4 days of work. He drives that distance because of higher pay but is now talking about a lower paying job closer to home because of gas prices.
That's where an electric vehicle with solar charging might be the answer. There is a big mountain on the drive. I don't know how an electric car would perform on climbing it.
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Post by papaof2 on Jun 4, 2022 14:50:12 GMT -6
Some electric motors have their greatest torque at stall so perhaps that would work. Go for a test drive but tell the salesman it must be over YOUR choice of test roads ;-)
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Post by biggkidd on Jun 4, 2022 21:33:03 GMT -6
Had to go out twice today so I filled up twice today. Also had to run to town yesterday so I filled up then too. Yesterday took $2.98 to fill back up at $4.39. This morning it took $37 at $4.59 and then another ten later in the day. I used the same station for all three fill ups. I really do fill up every single time I leave the house in the truck even if all I do is go to the nearest town which is about 5 miles one way.
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Post by papaof2 on Jun 6, 2022 21:36:37 GMT -6
Nearest station went up to $4.29 for unleaded. Their last price on diesel is older than that update but was $5.19. Next closest station is $4.19 and $5.39
It just keeps inching upward. All the PAW/SHTF fiction I've read in the past ten years seems to have bits of truth in it...
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Post by bretf on Jun 7, 2022 12:21:56 GMT -6
Three weeks ago, I filled up at home for 4.76 then headed for Tucson to get my son for the summer. In Kingman, AZ, I paid 5.49. It just hit 5 bucks here so I'm riding my bike to work most days- something I should've been doing for a long time.
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Post by gipsy on Jun 8, 2022 16:04:03 GMT -6
It's 5.90 and 5.67 today
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Post by papaof2 on Jun 9, 2022 21:33:21 GMT -6
Nearest station $4.59 unleaded (up $0.20 from yesterday). Diesel $5.39 (no change). Glad I persuaded the better half to get gas on the way home from PT yesterday - she was a needle's width above the half-tank mark ;-)
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Post by iamnobody on Jun 10, 2022 9:42:21 GMT -6
$5 a gal here now - I've started driving 5-10 mph less than the posted highway speed if no one is following me
heating oil is now $5.80 a gallon
I have a feeling a lot of people will no longer be maintaining a 70F temperature this winter. I already plan on keeping mine at 60F unless it is bitter cold.
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Post by papaof2 on Jun 10, 2022 15:20:46 GMT -6
Wool clothing, "fingerless" gloves, long underwear, closing off unused rooms and other options for reducing the amount of heat needed for the season. We have argon-filled double pane vinyl windows. I've put much of a case of caulking into all the outside cracks, nooks and crannies I could reach - including foam backer rod in some of the bigger spaces. I more than doubled the attic insulation.
Even the "sunny South" can be cold in January (highs in 30s (F), lows in teens) when the high efficiency central heat (natural gas) dies and its high tech controller board's "3 day" turnaround takes 14 days. We closed off some rooms and heated with the 30,000BTU gas logs* in the family room's fireplace and a 22,000BTU kerosene heater in the kitchen plus a ceiling fan to blow heat from the kero heater down on the tile floor to have a "heat bank" overnight. As the cost of heating rises, we can again close off some rooms and set the thermostat lower. A modern electric blanket with zoned heating (feet warmer than torso) with a very light topper (flannel sheet) to retain warmth lets you sleep comfortably in a much colder space. So does sleeping under flannel sheets and/or in flannel pajamas - and they do make footed pajamas for adults if you can't keep socks on when sleeping ;-(
Lots of options for staying comfortable with reduced room temperatures.
* Unvented gas logs, so no heat loss to incoming cold air, CO detector in the room and my spreadsheet (built from safety standards of BTU vs cubic feet) says there are more than enough cubic feet of space for the unvented heat to be safe. The fireplace is a monster from the 70's - 7 feet wide and ceiling height and the firebox is 48" by 31". Once that ton of masonry is heated, it radiates heat for hours ;-) If we lost natural gas, I could use an angle grinder and small welder to convert a 20lb LP tank into a wood stove that would fit in the firebox and/or maybe a waste oil heater that would burn whatever heavier fuel was available: dirty oil, clean oil, diesel, kerosene. The proper size stove would have a metal chimney just long enough to fit up through the fireplace's damper. There is another fireplace that size in the basement and it could provide enough heat to keep the pipes down there from freezing. Remember that natural gas distribution is no less fragile than the electric grid - one pump failure, one break in a pipe or loss of power in the wrong place could shut down a large area's NG flow. Or the weather can do it - as we saw in Texas last year :-( You need to have multiple heating or staying warm options and be open to off-the-wall alternatives - such as my experimentation with a diesel parking heater. Those are around 18,000BTU so not as much heat as a big round kero heater but the heat output can be directed where it's needed - you just need 12 volt power for the heater.
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