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Post by bunyip on Aug 22, 2020 1:39:11 GMT -6
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Post by papaof2 on Aug 22, 2020 4:24:38 GMT -6
It seems that The Ring of Fire has regular activity (as do Iceland and some other places) and a "small" volcanic winter is always just one eruption away.
Yellowstone has a roughly 600,000 year eruption cycle and the most recent eruption was about 640,000 years ago (from a Science Channel episode about Yellowstone).
I think there's always the possibility of another Tambora-level "Year without a Summer" eruption (about 2% of the expected Yellowstone eruption size).
Tom Sherry's "Deep Winter" might be the most realistic volcano PAW story I've read.
I've read one Yellowstone eruption PAW / Sci-Fi story that had multiple huge underground shelters (with redundant nuclear power, water from an aquifer there, hydroponics on a huge scale for growing food) and genetically enhanced people with telepathy (no mail or phones in the future), telekinesis (limited power equipment and fuel in the future) and who could have children with much shorter gestation periods (2 or 3 babies/year) to quickly rebuild the greatly decimated population in the 15 to 30 years it would take for the skies to clear before they could go out and grow crops again. They also had stored genetic material and equipment for cloning animals for future farming.
Sounded like the Rolls-Royce of PAW shelters ;-)
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Post by 9idrr on Aug 22, 2020 20:23:07 GMT -6
Yeah, I'm sure I've read "Deep Winter" at least four times. Something I think about fairly often, as I used to live with about 25 miles of Mt. Lassen. Even after a hundred years it's a shock to see what damage one of those mountains can do. Our daughter lives within sight of Mt. Hood and that's a bit of a concern. Actually sent her (via Amazon) a generator and some water storage jugs. I know those are only of help in the short term if Hood, St. Helens or another of those mountains really lets go but the thought is that surviving the early part of a major event might go a good ways towards making it through a longer situation.
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Post by papaof2 on Aug 22, 2020 23:58:15 GMT -6
Yeah, I'm sure I've read "Deep Winter" at least four times. Something I think about fairly often, as I used to live with about 25 miles of Mt. Lassen. Even after a hundred years it's a shock to see what damage one of those mountains can do. Our daughter lives within sight of Mt. Hood and that's a bit of a concern. Actually sent her (via Amazon) a generator and some water storage jugs. I know those are only of help in the short term if Hood, St. Helens or another of those mountains really lets go but the thought is that surviving the early part of a major event might go a good ways towards making it through a longer situation. If the initial ejection/lahar/whatever misses you, surviving on your own for a few weeks is a good start on being around when rescue gets there. |
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Post by 9idrr on Aug 23, 2020 13:26:25 GMT -6
She grew up with us always havin' some food and other supplies squirreled away. Havin' done eight years in USNavy helped her find out some more about how capable and self-reliant she can be. Her husband did sixteen years in USArmy so he ain't no rookie, either. They're about halfway up the Columbia from Astoria to Portland/Vancouver. There's a rail line and river access, so should roads be affected there's still a way to move goods to/though the area. If Rainier went off (see "Deep Winter") and Puget Sound was un-available the PacNorWest could take some advantage of supply lines up the Columbia. Reduced scale, but better than nothin'. She says there's plenty of grain and lumber that're barged through the area and the fishin' looks pretty good. If things didn't get too flaky, south of them is the Tillamook area, known for dairy products and there'd probably a good supply of local beef. Lots of worse places to be if the Ring of Fire gets active.
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