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Post by buckshot on Sept 12, 2011 23:53:39 GMT -6
I asked for this section, so I guess I had better kick it off and see what we got here.
I know generally, from past stories, and past talk with others we have at least a few types here or likely to show up here sooner or later.
The M14/M1a/M14s crowd.
The Mouse-gunners AR15A1/A2/M4gery and associated.
The Garand Grunts.
The Bolt Action Believers.
The Sporting Rifle Shooters.
So you have the .30 cal. world and the .223 world with an occasional clinker thrown in from the Bolt Action Believers or the Sporting Rifle Shooters.
What say you? Where do you fit, and why?
Buckshot
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Post by browsin on Sept 13, 2011 2:08:07 GMT -6
I am a machinegunner. We are seldom encountered in the wild. Our rites and rituals are arcane and shrouded in mystery, and we are regarded with fear and suspicion by other shooters.
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Post by rvm45 on Sept 13, 2011 7:33:35 GMT -6
Guns, Let me tell you about my 5906s. I got a bunch of back-pay in one lump sum. I was out of a .45 Automatic--1911A1--despite being a very Stern keeper of Colonel Cooper's Fighting Doctrine. Centerfire Systems had the 5906s--Cop Gun trade-ins. They also had 4006s. I Decided for a number of reasons, that my little World wouldn't be Airtight, till I owned a matched pair of those Stainless S&W 9mms. {I'd never even owned a 9mm prior to this...} In all fairness, I thought that my pension would allow me the very occasional purchase of a Firearm [Ha! Ha-Ha-Ha!!! Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!! Ho-Ho! Hee-Hee!!!] Well, I sent off to Centerfire Systems for two 5906s and ten 15 Round Magazines. I wish that I'd picked up a few more 15 rounders, and 3 or 4 of the 30 Round Magaines. {Although it serves no tactical purpose, one of the great joys of life, for me, is to stand up straight, with one or two pistols, and sending the maximum amount of Lead possible downrange--as quickly as possible.} I want the Magazine safeties out. I know how, but I lack a good vise with padded jaws, and a brass drift. Figure that I might as well pitch the firing pin block in the same general direction as the Magazine disconnect. "Isn't that Dangerous?" "Yes, it is." Bought two sets of Hogue Cocobolo grips. Set me back almost $100 each. Pretty, pretty wood..... I've spent many nights with either "Simichrome" or "Mother's Mag Creme" and a Chamois, trying to get them to Shine like Bright Nickel. I load them with 147 grain +P Hollow Points. They're a couple of my closest Friends--But they are a bit hard to take completely seriously..... They would be serious Weapons with their high profile Commander Sized Sized Slides and High Profile Sights..... If it wasn't for their fat little asses--way too big, for the amount of power that they can deliver. They remind me of the Cartoon Chipmunks "Chip" and "Dale". I'd like to get a double shoulder rig with them. So, do I qualify as a Gun Lover..... After having talked about my 5906s all this while? .....RVM45
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Post by Jerry D Young on Sept 13, 2011 13:57:00 GMT -6
I'm a pretty firm on the M1A/M14/FNFAL/AR-10/HK-91/PTR-91. Liking my PTR-91 more and more as time goe by.
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Post by buckshot on Sept 13, 2011 23:27:10 GMT -6
I am a machinegunner. We are seldom encountered in the wild. Our rites and rituals are arcane and shrouded in mystery, and we are regarded with fear and suspicion by other shooters. So, browsin, Were you washed in the rights of "St. John of Browning" or are you one of the later acolytes that only learned the lesser rites of the FN's. Or maybe a heretic of the M60 and M60 Tank .50 Cal.s? ;D Buckshot
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Post by buckshot on Sept 13, 2011 23:35:42 GMT -6
I'm a pretty firm on the M1A/M14/FNFAL/AR-10/HK-91/PTR-91. Liking my PTR-91 more and more as time goe by. JDY, I have no argument at all with the 7.62 X 51 NATO. After all, it is just a sawed off .30-06! On the other hand, I just offed a decent Century built L1A1 version of the FAL as I just could not get along with it, it was not set up for American style shooting, with most of the controls being on the left or biased to that side. Since I normally shoot with a loop sling, I was constantly reaching over or under and working stuff from the wrong side. The CETME, G-3, HK-91 and PTR-91 have all that to deal with plus the ergonomics of a chunk of 2" X 4" (the pistol grip) nailed on to a chunk of 2" X 6" (main body of the firearm. No argument against he M14/M14s at all. Only argument against the M1a is the cast crap they are down to using since their USGI parts have dried up. Problem with the AR-10 is that they are NOT standard! Would be a GREAT rifle if they were standardized like the AR-15 series. Buckshot
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Post by browsin on Sept 14, 2011 2:55:40 GMT -6
So, browsin, Were you washed in the rights of "St. John of Browning" or are you one of the later acolytes that only learned the lesser rites of the FN's. Or maybe a heretic of the M60 and M60 Tank .50 Cal.s? ;D Buckshot I am a follower of the Prophet Hiram and of Saint John of Ogden, as well as the lesser Saints such as Sts. Isaac and Samuel, St. Vasily, St. Mikhail, and have special veneration for St. George of Dagenham. I have no time for apostates like Eugene of Costa Mesa or for the German Roller Locking Heresy!
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Post by Jerry D Young on Sept 14, 2011 16:17:27 GMT -6
Of the .308 MBRs I listed, only the M1A and PTR-91 interest me. I just listed them all because there are fans of all of them in the .308 crowd.
Although, if the HK MR762A1 becomes available, at a price within my budget, I will probably go with it.
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Post by buckshot on Sept 15, 2011 0:36:01 GMT -6
Of the .308 MBRs I listed, only the M1A and PTR-91 interest me. I just listed them all because there are fans of all of them in the .308 crowd. Although, if the HK MR762A1 becomes available, at a price within my budget, I will probably go with it. JDY, I hear you and I am really NOT knocking your choice, no matter how bad the comments sound. Everyone has a right to their own choice. I just had back luck to meet the CETME/HK as a reloader before meeting it as a user. The fluted cases put me off forever. It didn't help that the couple I got to shoot seemed to be designed to annoy and hurt the user instead of being user friendly, either. Again, not a design set up for use by the American Rifle Marksman, either, which is the final strike for me. Buckshot
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Post by darkwolf on Sept 19, 2011 17:33:46 GMT -6
I like anything that makes noise and send something down range at a high speed to hit something. I do not care what caliber it is, I want to shot it.
I would be having multiple gunasims if I could fire a 155mm.
Darkwolf
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Post by buckshot on Sept 20, 2011 1:01:24 GMT -6
I like anything that makes noise and send something down range at a high speed to hit something. I do not care what caliber it is, I want to shot it. I would be having multiple gunasims if I could fire a 155mm. Darkwolf Darkwolf, I have not managed a 155 howitzer or long tom. I have managed to fire a 6 lbdr. brass gun, a 12 lbdr Mountain Howitzer, a US 3" Ordnance Rifle and a Confederate Mountain Rifle. Crewed on other positions on those also. What a hoot. Buckshot
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Post by jimbiggunboys on Sept 23, 2011 20:01:15 GMT -6
Buckshot, I fit into all of the above categories. I'm a true gun nut and play with all of them. I tend to collect a little bit (well, a lot actually) and can't be pigeon holed into any one category. I also reload for about 20 or so different calibers to help support my habit. There's nothing like the satisfaction of finding a new aquisition and working up a good load for it. Jim
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Post by buckshot on Sept 24, 2011 23:06:00 GMT -6
Jim,
Been there and done that a time or six.
Main area of collecting is infantry rifles.
In addition to that I also like big bore handguns, defensive handguns and "odd stuff".
Last count I had at least one set of dies for 44 different calibers. Some with more than one die set, some with form dies and other accessories.
I even keep the dies when I sell the rifles so now have 6.5 & 7.7 Japanese and no rifles for them.
I will find a use or a trade for them one day.
Buckshot
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Post by leper on Sept 25, 2011 11:34:21 GMT -6
We are all one big happily armed family. I guess it is more of the fact that you shoot, than what you shoot. I like the fireball out of a Mosin 44 in x54. The mag capacity of the 9 is nice. 1911 is the natural extension almost a part of my arm as the Buckmark seems to be. The x39 and x51 are purpose driven calibers. You have to round it out with the 5.56 to be sure your bases are covered.
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Post by canthsrider on Oct 27, 2011 6:47:06 GMT -6
[braces himself to out himself] I'm a polygunist. I've got an M1 and an AR (Betsy and Veronica) and they get along just fine. The Win94 in .44 Mag gets a lot of trigger time, too. The furriners in the safe (Enfield and Mosin) don't get as much trigger time but they do get out a bit. For fighting my way to my guns, I'm a believer in St. John - have several 1911s. But Mr. Smith & Mr Wesson are my friends, too - have many of their fine wheel guns, and my Model 19s put a fair amount of lead downrange, and bowling pins for miles around live in fear of my 629. Squirrels tremble in fear when Mr Ruger's work comes out of the safe, for that matter - have three 10/22's made over into Liberty Training Rifles and three .22 Ruger handguns for teaching and cheap trigger time. Aw, heck... Steve Lee said it best. "I like guns!" www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TC2xTCb_GU
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Post by hua man on Oct 28, 2011 15:16:21 GMT -6
Recently, I have been into junk guns. No, not the Jennings crap, I mean guns made from junk. Slam-bang shotguns, freedom pistols of WWII, the types of guns that if lost or stolen wouldn't hurt the wallet or heart. Make, use, disassemble, toss, and walk away.
That been said, I loves my lever .30/30.
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Post by buckshot on Oct 28, 2011 23:24:00 GMT -6
Recently, I have been into junk guns. No, not the Jennings crap, I mean guns made from junk. Slam-bang shotguns, freedom pistols of WWII, the types of guns that if lost or stolen wouldn't hurt the wallet or heart. Make, use, disassemble, toss, and walk away. That been said, I loves my lever .30/30. huaman, Not saying any of what you speak of are illegal, but WATCH the BATFE closely. They REALLY seem to dislike the Philippine style slide fire single shot shotguns. They somehow seem to have them linked in some way with open bolt operation! Buckshot
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Post by hua man on Oct 29, 2011 16:15:39 GMT -6
Nay, Buckshot, not into the construction of them but in their use during their lifetimes. With my tech level, I'd have a Gump wound by a Barney Fife manuever. Let that bake your noodle, folks. I just love info in all forms.
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Post by bunyip on Oct 29, 2011 20:42:45 GMT -6
Well I'm an Aussie, and as you probably have heard, our gun laws are very harsh.
(Having said that, perhaps not quite what some of you think. I did some research, and was surprised to find that they are about on par with those of Hawaii, and some other places like NY, DC, Chicago are arguably WORSE than ours. If you have a look at US external territories like Guam, American Samoa, Micronesia - they are MUCH worse than ours - despite having also the 2nd amendment).
So, I'm probably in the bolt gun camp, not necessarily by choice.
My favourite rifle is my three oh (SMLE .303 No, 4 Mk1) Built at Lithgow, 1942 - and may have seen action against the Japs in the dark days of 1942 - I like to think so, anyway.
Rifles here are a mix of Euro, American, and local. Lithgow was/is a military arsenal, also made lots of sporting rifles, and prob hundreds of thousands of .22s. Sportco likewise private but lots of .22s esp (and fullbore rifles) Sportco morphed into Kimber (you might know them).
I like Brnos/CZs (old Brnos are a highly regarded and sought after .22 here) I've also developed of late a liking for Tikkas.
Calibres here? Well you've got to look at what we shoot. .Rabbits (introduced pest) .22s (and .17HMR very popular (you might like to check Myalls and the devel of the .17 for interest). .Pigs (introduced pests) heavier calibres required there - very popular to hunt, and they are in plague proportion in places. .Goats, foxes, also introduced pests. .Up north crocs, Banteng (think water buffalo with attitude). .Roos, professional roo shooters tend to spotlight at night. Headshots required by the processors, .270 and .303/270 very popular, and .308. These guys have to be VERY good shots). Lever guns in .30/30, and .45/70 are popular for pigs. .Standard farmers rifles are usually .243, .22, 12G. We also have deer (introduced again) Sambar being the largest - they ARE big and .300WM and similari is the go for them.
I used to shoot fullbore (competition) - .308.
And of course, there ate lots of target shooters who just like to go to the range and plink, we still have lots of ranges.
My service days we used the L1A1 SLR (FN FAL - mod'd and mf dg Lithgow) in 7.62 x 51, HP35 in 9mm, F1 (9mm).
And yes, I have an interest in how things work too, like those Philippino pipe beasties, and I have De Haases book (out of interest) too .
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Post by buckshot on Oct 29, 2011 23:14:52 GMT -6
Bunyip, Need some clarification. You said: My favourite rifle is my three oh (SMLE .303 No, 4 Mk1) Built at Lithgow, 1942 - and may have seen action against the Japs in the dark days of 1942 - I like to think so, anyway. We have always been told, by various sources from our NRA through Ian Skennerton's books, that Lithgow NEVER MADE No. 4 rifles, only the No 1 Mk. III series rifles. I am NOT trying to argue, I am asking for informational reasons. You say that you had a SMLE .303 No, 4 Mk. I. That SHOULD be a rifle with a peep sight on the receiver bridge with screw adjustable elevation and a muzzle sticking out with two lugs to mount a spike bayonet on. Lithgows, as we see them, are No. 4 Mk. III or Mk. III* rifles, with the sight on the rear of the barrel ahead of the action, stock to the muzzle and a giant muzzle cap fitted which takes the M1907 sword bayonet. Again, not trying to start any kind of argument, just looking for info. Thanks, Buckshot
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Post by bunyip on Oct 29, 2011 23:38:12 GMT -6
Yep, 2 position peep.
A No 1is easy to spot, as the rear sight is halfway along the barrel almost.
I'm not an expert on the smelly (and I would NEVER presume to 2nd guess Ian Skennerton - Mr SMLE) - mines a shooter, listed as a Lithgow made No 4 - and i've left it at that. I probably DO need to research it more, but I'm happy to own and shoot a piece of history (a history it would seem I need to study up more on).
Don't know if it has some bearing, but it is 'refurbished' - at lithgow. New barrel etc post introduction of the SLR L1A1 as I understand. They were refurbed and put in 'strategic reserve'.
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Post by bunyip on Oct 30, 2011 21:44:53 GMT -6
Buckshot;
No argument, and no offence taken. I hadn't pursued Betsy's pedigree, I just accepted her as a damn fine rifle (sometimes a gentleman shouldn't probe too much into a ladies past...?).
Your question did motivate me to do some research.
Betsy's s/n starts 94C.... So even if she was refurbished at Lithgow (and now I'm not even so sure about that), it seems she is actually a later Chicopee Falls Savage originally.
I don't mind, to me she is just one nice rifle...
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Post by buckshot on Oct 30, 2011 22:09:32 GMT -6
Buckshot; No argument, and no offence taken. I hadn't pursued Betsy's pedigree, I just accepted her as a damn fine rifle (sometimes a gentleman shouldn't probe too much into a ladies past...?). Your question did motivate me to do some research. Betsy's s/n starts 94C.... So even if she was refurbished at Lithgow (and now I'm not even so sure about that), it seems she is actually a later Chicopee Falls Savage originally. I don't mind, to me she is just one nice rifle... I hear you on the inquiry on the past, sometimes safer, too with some of the more spirited ladies! With you saying a later Savage, you you have the Mk. I version or the Mk. I* version? You pull the bolt all the way back on the Mk. I version then release it with a button so that you can turn the lug under the sight to come put of the rifle. On the Mk. I * version, which Savage developed, you light the bolt lug up with a notch in the right hand rib to free it before turning it up to come out under the sight. I have a really strange one here, it is a NO. 4 Mk. I/2 which was a No. 4 Mk. I given a FTR at Falkersley in 48 and converted to Mk. II standard by moving the trigger pivot from the trigger plate to the bottom of the action like the Mk. No 4 Mk. II rifles. The same modifications to a No. 4 Mk. I* made it a No. 4 Mk. I/3. Buckshot
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Post by dogsoldier0513 on Oct 14, 2018 13:43:36 GMT -6
First off, allow me to introduce myself. I'm a high school Science teacher and former LEO. My wife and I currently reside in The Heart of Dixie, overlooking the majestic Tennessee River. I've dabbled in writing, am a voracious reader, and love guns, sharp, pointy thingees, and Jeeps....and my wife, although not necessarily in that order.
When I lived in a rural setting, I was an ardent believer in being able to 'reach out and touch someone', or at least being able to put them on foot by disabling their vehicle. As such, I had a passionate love for the FAL. I was also a lot younger and ran a lot. Now that I'm a lot older and live in the suburbs, with a long shot being 200m, and my knees not being what they once were, I'm happy with my AR. My wife has one to boot.
My EDC weapon is either a Ruger SR1911 Lightweight Commander 'type', or as today, an SA Range Officer Compact. Both in 9mm. Both loaded with Federal 147gr HSTs.
My dedicated 'Jeep gun' is a recent acquisition: a 9mm AR pistol taking Glock mags. It's loaded with Gecco 124gr Ball.
I think that's enough, for now.
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Post by gipsy on Oct 14, 2018 16:37:09 GMT -6
Top is a 300 Weatherby Mag and bottom is a pocket 380 with several in the middle.
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