Post by rvm45 on Dec 12, 2019 3:22:57 GMT -6
Friends,
I have a lively interest in home made firearms. Not guns made from kits or even finishing 80% kits. I mean REAL GUN MAKING.
I belong to several gun-making forums—including one that is membership by invitation only.
Sadly, it eventually became evident that barring a small miracle I will never be able to actually create any of my dreams.
Never mind even a Harbor Freight Lathe and Mill—I don't even have a hand drill or a table top drill press—nor a good place to work. I'm very poor—after they take out my medical insurance the net on my disability is about $1000.
Forget about buying some hand tools and a $100 belt sander, let alone a $600 mini-mill.
Plus—My hands don't work right—carpal tunnel, ulnar neuropathy and a touch of arthritis.
Anyway, when I accepted the fact that I'd never be able to build, I kinda lost interest in other folk's builds. I am shamefully absent from the building sites most of the time any more.
Despite not building, I was fairly well respected in the community. I used to have a motto "I've never built a Firearm, But I play a Firearms Designer Online."
Whatever.
It isn't at all hard to build a good working semi-automatic. Never mind cringe-worthy zip-guns, better than nothing, but only just. I'm talking about a quality firearm that you'd be proud to own.
Creating a Revolver or a traditional Bolt Action Rifle is harder. My main interest is Revolvers. There isn't much written about Home Revolver Manufacture—but I've done beaucoup research.
Be all that as it lay.
There might be very little motivation to set up clandestine factories to create new Firearms in the wake of a total ban. There is over 300 Million privately owned guns in the New Knighted States. Guns can be stolen or even bought illegally from military and police armories…
Sigh…
The main problem is ammunition. I can tell you how to cast bullets. As Elmer Keith said, "You need a jacket on a pistol bullet as much as you need two tails on a hunting hound."
I can show you how to swage brass cases and how to create smokeless powder. I can even show you how to create primer cups and anvils.
I can't point anyone to a safe priming compound formula. Honestly, until the 20th century when ammunition making become a science, the makers of priming compound put their life, fingers and eyes at risk. Wanna do it safely? You need a couple million dollars and advanced techniques that I am not a party to.
Truth be told, explosives scare the beejeeburs out of me. I'm not afraid to die, but losing an eye or two and/or several fingers AND LIVING is a horrifying prospect to me.
Never mind. Some people seem drawn to explosives as a moth is drawn to flame. Some of them are still enthusiastic even after losing some fingers. I suppose, that in dire necessity some them could be used to make priming compound…
But anyway, look at some of the good quality underground manufactured firearms being seized by the hobnails in Australia, South America and the Philippines.
Machine Pistols seem to be the order of the day.
Time out for a brief rant.
It was always an accepted practice to refer to any weapon that used pistol cartridges as "A Machine Pistol."
Most people preferred to call the damned things "Submachine Guns" and only call things like the Star and the Beretta 93R Machine Pistols—BUT if you chose to call a Thompson, an Uzi or a PPsH 41 a "Machine Pistol" no one would call you "Wrong."
The great Jeff Cooper made a great point of referring to all pistol chambered carbines as "Machine Pistols" to emphasize that he believed a pistol was just as effective as a sub gun and wasted less ammo—only proper pistol use takes proper training.
Saint Cooper had a very minor acolyte named "Chuck Taylor" and Taylor was a big advocate of Submachine Guns. He took it on himself to rewrite the American Language. He started saying in his many articles that it was INCORRECT to refer to Sub Machineguns as "Machine Pistols."
NO IT IS NOT INCORRECT! WHO DIED AND LEFT Chuck Taylor GOD OF THE AMERICAN LANGUAGE?*?*?*?*?*?
Anyway, gun writers are largely imitative and dull-witted hacks and they picked up Taylor's proclamation as if it was Gospel and started repeating it.
It ain't. Strike a blow for decency and refer to "Sub Machineguns" as "Machine Pistols" every chance you get!!!!!!!
Be all that as it may. Handy selective-fire carbines in popular pistol calibers seem the most common among the manufacturers and buyers of blackmarket manufactured weapons.
Anyway…
I have long wanted to write a story about brave people running an underground arms factory—largely from idealism.
If it were me, I would turn out a LOT of machine pistols to pay the bills and try to carefully handcraft a few Revolvers in my spare time.
Yeah, many customers would be drug dealers. Those cartels in Mexico are—in Trumps words: "Animals." However, I see no reason that a drug supplier couldn't be an upstanding supplier of black market material…
And anyway, if it gave me the funds to fight the gun restrictions of a gun-banning Gubmint, drug dealers would be the lesser of two evils.
If I were 30-years younger and such ban happened—I'd seek financing from some rather large scale dealers I sorta knew—to start my manufactory.
See, this would be a story about someone who LOVES GUNS…
Anyone read "The Fountainhead"? He loves guns the way Howard Rourke loves architecture.
Well, I seem to lack the skill to write in the halfway realistic style this would require—but at least this lets me vent the idea.
……RVM45
I have a lively interest in home made firearms. Not guns made from kits or even finishing 80% kits. I mean REAL GUN MAKING.
I belong to several gun-making forums—including one that is membership by invitation only.
Sadly, it eventually became evident that barring a small miracle I will never be able to actually create any of my dreams.
Never mind even a Harbor Freight Lathe and Mill—I don't even have a hand drill or a table top drill press—nor a good place to work. I'm very poor—after they take out my medical insurance the net on my disability is about $1000.
Forget about buying some hand tools and a $100 belt sander, let alone a $600 mini-mill.
Plus—My hands don't work right—carpal tunnel, ulnar neuropathy and a touch of arthritis.
Anyway, when I accepted the fact that I'd never be able to build, I kinda lost interest in other folk's builds. I am shamefully absent from the building sites most of the time any more.
Despite not building, I was fairly well respected in the community. I used to have a motto "I've never built a Firearm, But I play a Firearms Designer Online."
Whatever.
It isn't at all hard to build a good working semi-automatic. Never mind cringe-worthy zip-guns, better than nothing, but only just. I'm talking about a quality firearm that you'd be proud to own.
Creating a Revolver or a traditional Bolt Action Rifle is harder. My main interest is Revolvers. There isn't much written about Home Revolver Manufacture—but I've done beaucoup research.
Be all that as it lay.
There might be very little motivation to set up clandestine factories to create new Firearms in the wake of a total ban. There is over 300 Million privately owned guns in the New Knighted States. Guns can be stolen or even bought illegally from military and police armories…
Sigh…
The main problem is ammunition. I can tell you how to cast bullets. As Elmer Keith said, "You need a jacket on a pistol bullet as much as you need two tails on a hunting hound."
I can show you how to swage brass cases and how to create smokeless powder. I can even show you how to create primer cups and anvils.
I can't point anyone to a safe priming compound formula. Honestly, until the 20th century when ammunition making become a science, the makers of priming compound put their life, fingers and eyes at risk. Wanna do it safely? You need a couple million dollars and advanced techniques that I am not a party to.
Truth be told, explosives scare the beejeeburs out of me. I'm not afraid to die, but losing an eye or two and/or several fingers AND LIVING is a horrifying prospect to me.
Never mind. Some people seem drawn to explosives as a moth is drawn to flame. Some of them are still enthusiastic even after losing some fingers. I suppose, that in dire necessity some them could be used to make priming compound…
But anyway, look at some of the good quality underground manufactured firearms being seized by the hobnails in Australia, South America and the Philippines.
Machine Pistols seem to be the order of the day.
Time out for a brief rant.
It was always an accepted practice to refer to any weapon that used pistol cartridges as "A Machine Pistol."
Most people preferred to call the damned things "Submachine Guns" and only call things like the Star and the Beretta 93R Machine Pistols—BUT if you chose to call a Thompson, an Uzi or a PPsH 41 a "Machine Pistol" no one would call you "Wrong."
The great Jeff Cooper made a great point of referring to all pistol chambered carbines as "Machine Pistols" to emphasize that he believed a pistol was just as effective as a sub gun and wasted less ammo—only proper pistol use takes proper training.
Saint Cooper had a very minor acolyte named "Chuck Taylor" and Taylor was a big advocate of Submachine Guns. He took it on himself to rewrite the American Language. He started saying in his many articles that it was INCORRECT to refer to Sub Machineguns as "Machine Pistols."
NO IT IS NOT INCORRECT! WHO DIED AND LEFT Chuck Taylor GOD OF THE AMERICAN LANGUAGE?*?*?*?*?*?
Anyway, gun writers are largely imitative and dull-witted hacks and they picked up Taylor's proclamation as if it was Gospel and started repeating it.
It ain't. Strike a blow for decency and refer to "Sub Machineguns" as "Machine Pistols" every chance you get!!!!!!!
Be all that as it may. Handy selective-fire carbines in popular pistol calibers seem the most common among the manufacturers and buyers of blackmarket manufactured weapons.
Anyway…
I have long wanted to write a story about brave people running an underground arms factory—largely from idealism.
If it were me, I would turn out a LOT of machine pistols to pay the bills and try to carefully handcraft a few Revolvers in my spare time.
Yeah, many customers would be drug dealers. Those cartels in Mexico are—in Trumps words: "Animals." However, I see no reason that a drug supplier couldn't be an upstanding supplier of black market material…
And anyway, if it gave me the funds to fight the gun restrictions of a gun-banning Gubmint, drug dealers would be the lesser of two evils.
If I were 30-years younger and such ban happened—I'd seek financing from some rather large scale dealers I sorta knew—to start my manufactory.
See, this would be a story about someone who LOVES GUNS…
Anyone read "The Fountainhead"? He loves guns the way Howard Rourke loves architecture.
Well, I seem to lack the skill to write in the halfway realistic style this would require—but at least this lets me vent the idea.
……RVM45
